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Post by ryan77724 Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:28 pm

So I bought this used, and put about 25 rounds through it and the bcg broke! Has anyone seen/heard of this or have any info what happened?

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Post by ryan77724 Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:30 pm

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Post by Readyman Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:55 am

That doesn't even look possible knowing the mechanics of the bolt operation. What caliber?
Just guessing, If the bolt slider group wasn't pinned in, the recoil could blow thru the slider rails like that because there would be no resistance.

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Post by ryan77724 Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:01 am

It’s 45acp

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Post by 70worm Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:14 am

I'm new to Vectors, but it seems like in all my research before I got one every broken vector I read about was 45acp.

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Post by Readyman Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:18 pm

I'm only shooting 45 +P and 45 super thru my Vector with a 11 inch barrel. So I'm keeping a close watch on the internals, I have nothing close to abnormal wear even with +hundreds of rds. I could feel a bigger thump on the buffer, mine might be calling for a stronger recoil spring.

There are two angles on the slider, a steeper ramp for the closed breech & ignition, and another lesser angle for the rest of the travel.
If the bolt slid up the steeper initial angle, and there was no recoil spring action(not pinned, no recoil spring installed) it could have forced its way thru the slider 'thin rails'. But in normal operation the recoil spring keeps all the forces down against the body of the slider.


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Post by ryan77724 Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:12 pm

Interesting, I saw the two different tracks. Which one should I be using?

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Post by Readyman Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:32 pm

You'd better hit the internet and study the images of the proper Kriss assembly/reassemby of the bolt and slider.
Now I see what you did, and what caused the catastrophic failure.
When the bolt lugs are not inserted into the slider rails properly and instead, sit on top of them. The recoil bears down on the thin portion of the slider, that'll bust em during ignition.
I reassembled my bolt/slider assembly incorrectly and pinned it in like normal so it can be done.
Hit the Kriss site for a $175 new slider assembly, it was you're fault, operator error.


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Post by Readyman Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:45 pm

This is wrong, but can be done and according to you Ryan, sounds like it'll actually work... for 25 rds.
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Post by ryan77724 Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:12 pm

Very interesting guys! Thanks for the help!

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Post by mambro Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:16 pm

Thanks, Readyman! Great detective work!
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