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Post by CatMostFeared Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:50 pm

so can I ask why you bought 2 Vectors
and I guess you already sent off the paper work for the stamp
I have a SBR waiting a stamp and I was also thinking of getting a carbine
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Post by Solscud007 Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:52 pm

Strange. Mine is flawless. Beyond the nuanced quirks. Mine eats anything I feed it.

I tried twisting the receivers like you said. Nothing. Rock solid.
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Post by dhshammer Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:13 am

Hello CatMostFeared

I buy everything in 2's............one for me, one for my wife...... Pistols, AK's, AR's suppressors....

This weapon is being touted as a close quarter battle weapon..... I define that as 25 yards or less............ anything beyond that is a folly. I thought is was perfect for close quarter (home) defense. Too many flaws......

Anyway, I am thinking of selling the pair.......... They are both SBR so it complicates the sale a little............

Name a good price and they are yours.....

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Post by CatMostFeared Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:23 am

oh please don't let me make a offer
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Post by dhshammer Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:25 am

Keep in mind, mine are SBR's. Maybe some of you have the carbine version....a different animal......

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Post by CatMostFeared Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:27 am

are they factory SBR
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Post by dhshammer Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:37 am

They both were bought as a pistol.......the SBR conversion (stock added) was done by the book...

This is NOT a 16 inch barrel cut to SBR....

Anyway.......the more I think about all the problems....the more I want to sell....

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Post by Mushinto Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:31 pm

I would have thought that a $1,700 carbine would be accurate.

Actionlou, What did the factory tell you when they shot your gun?

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Post by Solscud007 Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:05 pm

i will need to do a 25 yd group and see what i get. But so far my KRISS is pretty good. All of my shooting is off-hand involving some bit of movement.

dhshammer, where are you located?

Mushinto, Welcome.
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Post by actionlou Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:22 pm

Hello Mushinto and Welcome,

Spoke to Charlie at the factory this morning and it looks like they will be looking at my gun today. I will let you know as soon as i hear back.

Thanks ,
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Post by dhshammer Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:21 am

Solscud007

I'm in the Las Vegas area.

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Post by Solscud007 Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:33 am

Oh ok you are the guy on FB. You are in Henderson right? Dave N Dawn Marksman?
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Post by dhshammer Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:00 pm

Thats us!

In fact, she has never shot hers. We used mine at first and it quickly became clear that she had a very hard time operating it. The charging handle is difficult for her to slide back for example. In fact, if you look at the new Kriss design, you will see that they moved the charging handle.

She immediately abandoned her suppressed SBR Kriss in favor of either her Beretta storm or our DDM4's.

Try this..... sight it in at 25 yards (the Kriss people recommend a 35 yard zero). Then set up a new target at 20 feet (close quarters). Go for a forehead shot or a 10 ring shot. Post your results.







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Post by CatMostFeared Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:20 pm

dhshammer wrote: Try this..... sight it in at 25 yards (the Kriss people recommend a 35 yard zero). Then set up a new target at 20 feet (close quarters). Go for a forehead shot or a 10 ring shot. Post your results.


that wont work the barrel is 2-3" away from the sites just like my PS90 and I site the barrel in parallel
with my site and always shoot 2-3: above my target
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Post by PNWArms Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:41 am

Just posted a new topic showing the results of a recent accuracy test with the KRISS SBR and CBR at 25, 50, and 100 yards.

Thanks,

-PNW Arms Sales Team

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Post by Mushinto Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:57 pm

PNWArms wrote:Just posted a new topic showing the results of a recent accuracy test with the KRISS SBR and CBR at 25, 50, and 100 yards.

Thanks,

-PNW Arms Sales Team

Now, we're getting somewhere.

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Post by mambro Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:13 am

dhshammer wrote:...I discovered an issue that may affect accuracy. There is play between the upper and lower receiver. If you twist the upper (rear) and lower (forward) grip in opposite directions, you will notice that a gap of about 1.5 millimeters appears between the receivers.
I stumbled upon this listing and the seller mentions he has a "shim kit" in his Vector (CRB). Hmmmmmm

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=554040
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Post by dhshammer Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:14 am

Thank you mambro.

I guess this shim kit is a secret, but available.


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Post by Mushinto Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:23 am

I think that this "shim kit" is a figment of that seller's imagination to enhance the gun he's selling.

However, the fact that someone would think that a "shim kit" is necessary for the Kriss is fascinating.

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Post by Shipwreck Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:44 pm

The KRISS really interested me for a while. But seeing things like this are really disappointing.

I can do 1/2" groups with my PS90s all day long. Others claim 1" groups at 100 yards (I can't see that far, unmagnified at 100 yards, to shoot "groups" at 100 yards).

But, for a carbine, I'd be disappointed at anything greater than an inch to an inch and a half at 50 yards.
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Post by dhshammer Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:16 pm

Hi Shipwreck

Check out this thread.....

http://www.krisstalk.com/t163-pnw-arms-kriss-accuracy-test

This is AFTER 8 months of R&D PNW engineers put into making a round specifically for the Kriss.

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Post by Shipwreck Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:37 pm

dhshammer wrote:Hi Shipwreck

Check out this thread.....

http://www.krisstalk.com/t163-pnw-arms-kriss-accuracy-test

This is AFTER 8 months of R&D PNW engineers put into making a round specifically for the Kriss.

Thanks for the link.

That is disappointing, IMHO. In semi auto fire, I think that is disappointing for a rifle/carbine.
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Post by Solscud007 Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:57 am

My friend Allen has a Carbine and here is his 25 yd grouping.

5 shots.

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Post by Solscud007 Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:57 am

He said that his eotech is faulty and used an aimpoint.
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Post by actionlou Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:19 am

Now that is what I call a group. Great Job.



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